Won't this be a hard one for you -- as I recall, you favor gay marriage, which is a bit unusual for a Republican, although you disagree with it being done via the courts instead of legislatures.

Are you going to play "devils advocate" on the Iron Blog?

Dunno if you caught my comments over there yet, but the Dem initial argument stinks. Bad. Phew... I was appalled, really, to read what a poor position he presented.

I felt the challenger did better, but even there is a large flaw in his argument that I'll leave be for now.

Here's what I posted over there about that lousy first statement:

Rose, you're being awfully gentle, for you. :)

The opening stinks. Frankly, I think that rhetorically the pro-SSM position is generally stronger, but this goober misses every positive, and manages to find a series of practially irrelevant side issues with which to shoot himself in the foot!

He starts, (starts, mind you!) with the laughably ignorant fatuity that the Constituition "grant[s] ... rights to individuals!" For the "Constitution in Crayon" brigade, that document grants no rights to any citizen, as the very concept is alien to classic political thought in America. Rights are seen as unalienable and inherent. Apparently Mr. Bullock has developed his political theories in France. :)

It goes downhill after this. I think he especially hurt his own case by focusing so much on the supposed religious motivation of the opposition, as well as trying to force the issue into a parallel with the 60s civil rights movement.

It occurs to me that Mr. Bullock is arguing with his own perception of an anti-SSM advocate. Perhaps if he actually tried to listen to what the other side says, he might manage to develop better arguments against them.

Nah, It won't be hard for me. IB Democrat has already launched his opener and it is weak. I can tweak him. I can agree with with someone - and disagree on their reasoning.

Let me ask this - its the same question asked of me when I debate the entire patriot act:
Just as I am asked "how has the patriot act affect me directly" I ask, how is gay marriage affecting YOU directly?

Nunya,

It's not. I guess you missed it -- I'm for it.

What? What's that? You got nothing else to say?

Good.

QOAE, I have never seen you agree with a Democrat. Are there any DNC ideas that you do agree with? I'd like to see what they are. I'd also like to see the GOP ideas that Ara agrees with. Is it asking too much for Arne to admit to some Reagan ideas that he agrees with?

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