Are We In Danger Of Becoming A Theocracy?
Sure, if you want to believe the ravings of the left, that danger began once Bush became president. Even some of the saner liberals are concerned.
The dirty little secret is that we already are a theocracy and it was created by the liberals and the PC crowd, not the Christians or the Conservatives. The fear isn't that we'll become a theocracy, but what religion we worship.
From a website called The Myth of Separation of Church and State:
"There is no such thing as a pluralistic society; there will always be one dominant view. Someone's morality is going to be taught -- but whose? Secular Humanism is a religion that teaches that through Man's ability we will reach universal peace and unity and make heaven on earth. They promote a way of life that systematically excludes God and all religion in the traditional sense. That Man is the highest point to which nature has evolved, and he can rely on only himself and that the universe was not created, but instead is self-existing. They believe that Man has the potential to be good in and of himself. All of this of course is in direct conflict with not only the teachings of the Bible but even the lessons of history."
"In June 1961 in a case called Torcaso v. Watkins, the U.S. Supreme Court stated, 'Among religions in this country which do not teach what would generally be considered a belief in the existence of God are Buddhism, Taoism, Ethical Culture, Secular Humanism and others.' The Supreme Court declared Secular Humanism to be a religion."
"The American Humanist Association certifies counselors who enjoy the same legal status as ordained ministers. Since the Supreme Court has said that Secular Humanism is a religion, why is it being allowed to be taught in schools? The removal of public prayer of those who wish to participate is, in effect, establishing the religion of Humanism over Christianity. This is exactly what our founding fathers tried to stop from happening with the first amendment."
The dirty little secret is that we already are a theocracy and it was created by the liberals and the PC crowd, not the Christians or the Conservatives. The fear isn't that we'll become a theocracy, but what religion we worship.
From a website called The Myth of Separation of Church and State:
"There is no such thing as a pluralistic society; there will always be one dominant view. Someone's morality is going to be taught -- but whose? Secular Humanism is a religion that teaches that through Man's ability we will reach universal peace and unity and make heaven on earth. They promote a way of life that systematically excludes God and all religion in the traditional sense. That Man is the highest point to which nature has evolved, and he can rely on only himself and that the universe was not created, but instead is self-existing. They believe that Man has the potential to be good in and of himself. All of this of course is in direct conflict with not only the teachings of the Bible but even the lessons of history."
"In June 1961 in a case called Torcaso v. Watkins, the U.S. Supreme Court stated, 'Among religions in this country which do not teach what would generally be considered a belief in the existence of God are Buddhism, Taoism, Ethical Culture, Secular Humanism and others.' The Supreme Court declared Secular Humanism to be a religion."
"The American Humanist Association certifies counselors who enjoy the same legal status as ordained ministers. Since the Supreme Court has said that Secular Humanism is a religion, why is it being allowed to be taught in schools? The removal of public prayer of those who wish to participate is, in effect, establishing the religion of Humanism over Christianity. This is exactly what our founding fathers tried to stop from happening with the first amendment."
Posted by Rosemary on
04.28.2005
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The removal of public prayer of those who wish to participate is, in effect, establishing the religion of Humanism over Christianity.
Are you suggesting that Christians are being persecuted? By Humanists?
Crucified.
-- Randall Terry, Head of Operation Rescue, speaking in Fort Wayne, Indiana, on April 15, 1993, as reported the following day in The News-Sentinel.
To follow the line of thought that because a group -Secular Humanists or anybody else for that matter-has a protected status under the concept of freedom of conscience establishes them as the official religion of the United States is nonsense. The religion of this country is the notion of free exercise.
I don't see secular humanist churches springing up here and there nor do I notice the idea being hawked on the airwaves with requests for money. The notion that people of faith- all people of faith not just those who would dictate their particular views as evidenced by the above quote-are somehow victims is just the worst sort of hyperboly.
-- Randall Terry, Head of Operation Rescue, speaking in Fort Wayne, Indiana, on April 15, 1993, as reported the following day in The News-Sentinel.
To follow the line of thought that because a group -Secular Humanists or anybody else for that matter-has a protected status under the concept of freedom of conscience establishes them as the official religion of the United States is nonsense. The religion of this country is the notion of free exercise.
I don't see secular humanist churches springing up here and there nor do I notice the idea being hawked on the airwaves with requests for money. The notion that people of faith- all people of faith not just those who would dictate their particular views as evidenced by the above quote-are somehow victims is just the worst sort of hyperboly.
-- Richard Dawkins
“We are built as gene machines and cultured as meme machines, but we have the power to turn against our creators. We, alone on earth, can rebel against the tyranny of the selfish replicators.”
-- Richard Dawkins
Science can destroy religion by ignoring it as well as by disproving its tenets. No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they have few followers now.
Arthur C. Clarke
English physicist &science fiction author (1917 - )
Acceptance without proof is the fundamental characteristic of Western religion, rejection without proof is the fundamental characteristic of Western science.
Gary Zukav, "The Dancing Wu Li Masters"
Religion is the opiate of the masses.
Karl Marx, Urban Dictionary, under "Religion."
German economist &Communist political philosopher (1818 - 1883)
Religion is a monumental chapter in the history of human egotism.
William James US Pragmatist philosopher &psychologist (1842 - 1910)
Matters of religion should never be matters of controversy. We neither argue with a lover about his taste, not condemn him, if we are just, for knowing so human a passion.
George Santayana US (Spanish-born) philosopher (1863 - 1952)
Conventionality is not morality. Self-righteousness is not religion. To attack the first is not to assail the last.
Charlotte Bronte English novelist (1816 - 1855)
Do you really want to get into a quote war on who loves or loaths relgion enough to force it on everyone? I prefer Santayana's quote to your lovely psycopathic quote with which to tar all followers of any Christian relgion. (Even those of us that despise Mr. Terry and wish the Devil himself would swallow him up, just to get a bit of peace from the "RELIGIOUS CONSERVATIVE AGENDA! Yeah, we're all in on the 'secret' plan to take over the world!) Better yet, I'll let a Founding Father speak for me...
I never told my religion nor scrutinize that of another. I never attempted to make a convert nor wished to change another's creed. I have judged of others' religion by their lives, for it is from our lives and not from our words that our religion must be read. By the same test must the world judge me.
Thomas Jefferson 3rd president of US (1743 - 1826)
Christopher Hitchens: "What is asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence"
Darth Vadar: "Luke I am your father"
I say that with a plastic trash can over my head for effect. It's fabulous.
When my church starts beating tithes out of non-members who live within the confines of the "parish" we will ave accomplished our evil non-civil-libertarian goals!
I'm just saying.
Just the headnotes:
The Court is no more willing to establish a religion on its own than it is willing to allow the other branches to violate the Constitution by trying to require adherence to a particular creed.
You are allowed to swear an oath before God, but should not be forced to. Hence the option to "affirm under penalty of perjury" rather that "swear" to tell the truth.
Tell me you aren't so dense that you don't get that distinction. I know better and so do you Rose.
Quit starting shit. This case is as old as I am.
Quoting from a unanimous decision in an earlier case, [367 U.S. 488 at 493] This case did NOT establish any religion whatsoever, but merely recognized an individual's right not to adhere to one.
The same goes for secular humanists which by the way is actually a philosophy and fits many characteristics of a belief system whether you want to call it a "religion" or not. Secularists worship humanity and it's creativity. Not sure I'd say it's a religion but Buddhists don't believe in God either and that is a major religion so whose definition do you want to acknowledge?? Take your pick.