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Hamas Wins Big In Palestinian Elections

Pro-Israeli liberal [no, really I swear, it's not just an oxymoron] blames Bush.

I can't wait to hear how this is Bush's fault. Anyone want to guess?

Posted by Rosemary on 01.26.2006
Ara Rubyan (www):
Hadn't you heard, Rosemary? Toppling Saddam was going to send ripples of democracy through Iraq and the rest of the Middle East: Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Palestine....

It was going to be (you should excuse the phrase) "a domino effect."

As if.

In reality, we're not even committed to democracy in Iraq let alone anywhere else.

Wrap your head around this: an "election" doesn't make you a democracy. It matters what you vote for. If Islamic extremists take power in Iraq, if terrorists take power in "Palestine," that isn't democracy.

Come on! History shows that plenty of heinous dictators have won elections.

How many times do I have to say it -- don't watch what Bush says, watch what he does. And, in this case, he didn't do jack.
1.26.2006 10:36am
Ara Rubyan (www):
A couple of other things I neglected to say:
  1. "Freedom is on the march" will become one of those Bushisms like "Mission Accomplished" and "You're doin a heckuva job, Brownie."

  2. Yes, that's right, I'm a pro-Israel liberal. What's so hard to understand about that? I also happen to be pro-democracy and Israel is the only democracy in the region. You got a problem with that? And I'll be blunt -- don't bother to read me anything Michael Moore and Cindy Sheehan have to say on the subject because, when it comes to that, they bore the crap out of me.

  3. An additional domino: Pakistan.

  4. re: Hamas -- Some have suggested two democracies will not go to war against each other. I guess we're about to find out the truth of that statement, one way or the other. I sure hope we don't have to find out the hard way.
1.26.2006 10:46am
Rosemary, Queen of All Evil (mail):
Ara,

I know that you don't agree with the Libs about Israel and, to me, that is very much to your credit. It's one of the reasons I really respect you and your opinions. It may not seem that way sometimes but I really truly do.

How many times do I have to say it -- don't watch what Bush says, watch what he does. And, in this case, he didn't do jack.

Bush has been a huge supporter of Israel and I believe in my gut that he won't accept Hamas as a political opponent unless they do a major reform on policy. The freedom on the march bit is a hope more than anything else. I don't think that anyone expected to see Palestinians or any arab change their mind on the Israel question this quick. The hatred for Israel is so deep, sadly I'm not sure that will change in my lifetime.

I believe that we are committed to democracy in Iraq and in the greater ME, I'm just not sure when or if we'll ever get it. Does that mean we should give up? Some may say yes but I say no. If we give up on spreading democracy, we might as well give up on Israel. I'm not prepared to support that, ever.
1.26.2006 11:28am
Ara Rubyan (www):
I appreciate your comments.

And no, I don't think we should give up in the ME. I just think we need a better, smarter, alternative to Bush. Come on -- after 5 years of George W. Bush, "Dick" Cheney, Colin Powell, Condi Rice and Donald Rumsfeld, we end up with Hamas in charge? What is that??

I don't know.

History might eventually figure out what Bush was doing. But from here, it's all pretty ridiculous. For some reason, Bush scrambled the deck after Afghansitan. Instead of Saudi Arabia (or Iran! or N. Korea!) he went for Iraq. A tragic miscalculation? Hubris? Cutting corners to posture as a wartime president? Who knows. I keep saying the same thing over and over (maybe I should make it an acronym): Don't watch what Bush says, watch what he does. [DWWBSWWHD]

Bush has been a huge supporter of Israel

Yes. Well. DWWBSWWHD.

P.S. And before anyone says he is "better than the Democrats" please understand that it doesn't cut much mustard with me.
1.26.2006 11:55am
Rosemary, Queen of All Evil (mail):
Well, I'm not prepared to blame Bush for Hamas winning an election. They are a bunch of punk terrorists but in my mind they are no worse that that piece of crap Arafat. Basically, the Pals have screwed the pooch and I hope they get what they paid for by electing terrorists. Nothin'.

I'd like to see Bush stop Congress from allocating aid money to the Palestinians, because if we continue it would be supporting terrorists.
1.26.2006 12:15pm
Ara Rubyan (www):
Be my guest.

But you're assuming Congress has some semblance of a will to exercise it's Constitutional authority.

Gone are the days!
1.26.2006 1:16pm

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