The Fallwell commencement speech is just the tip of the iceberg. It's how he got there that is so loathsome.
This is the Senator McCain that I supported and voted for:
Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona broke forcefully with President Bush and the Senate GOP leadership Tuesday evening over the issue of same-sex marriage, taking to the Senate floor to call a constitutional amendment that would effectively ban the practice unnecessary — and un-Republican. “The constitutional amendment we’re debating today strikes me as antithetical in every way to the core philosophy of Republicans,” McCain said.
McCain “reconfirmed” to Falwell that he would support a federal constitutional amendment defining marriage as the union of one man and one woman if a federal court were to strike down state constitutional bans on gay marriage.
Jesus God.
You people keep telling me Republicans are OK, that I should consider voting for them. And, you know, I did vote for McCain once. But never, ever, EVER again.
Once upon a time, he was the best of the lot. But McCain has long since passed over the line from "straight-talker" to "butt-kissing Bush lover." And the rest of the Republicans are even worse.
First I have not seen a rebuttal from McCain so I will take this statement as fact until I hear otherwise..that being said..this is where I think you and I will split hairs on the issue..
McCain's outreach to conservatives on marriage is politically important because of the way he sharply denounced a federal constitutional ban on gay marriage when it was considered in 2004. McCain called it "antithetical in every way to the core philosophy of Republicans" because it "usurps from the states a fundamental authority they have always possessed and imposes a federal remedy for a problem that most states do not believe confronts them."
It isn't a federal deal, it is a states rights issue! That's how I read this.
One thing I admire about McCain is that he speaks his mind and I don't really believe that he has changed his mind on this subject..I just think that many on the left don't want him associated with Falwell (can't say as I blame them), but I must say..my first reaction when I saw where he was speaking was.."I can't believe they would allow him on their campus!"
Whoever the candidate is, Republican or Democrat, ignoring the Christian coalition is not a smart move. Antagonizing them only makes matters worse...but what do I know..I am just a Catholic and according to them I don't count as a Christian...
You can expect a lot of Republicans to resurrect the gay marriage issue in order to try to get Christians all riled up again prior to the November elections.
It's a political ploy, folks. DeWine is doing the same in Ohio. McCain, believing he has a shot at the 2008 presidential election is starting early to garner Bush's Christian "base." Other than a complet 180 degree turnaround, what could be more base than that except publicly hugging Bush in '04 after his 2000 primary run was derailed by Rove's grass roots telephone campaign that accused McCain's adopted daughter of being his illegitimate "nigger" baby? Sorry, his unbridled ambition is what makes McCain scum.
And by the way, were you aware that the rumor about Kerry wanting McCain to be his running mate was started by none other than McCain himself (or at least his office) He's been playing us and his party (strategically positioning himself for a 2008 run) for a LONG time.
But if you really believe he's a moderate, I suggest you take a good long look at his voting record. He's never been a moderate as far as I'm concerned, and the war not withstanding, until 1999 he'd been much farther right of center than most.
Mark Adams, the high and mighty, hypocritical, bloviator. (mail) (www):
I kicked my son out of the house after registering GOP and voting for McCain in '00.
Helping him move into a dorm his freshman year of college was merely a coincidence at the time.
Actually, if I'm reading the word smithing correctly, McCain is making a very Clintonesque distinction without a difference. He's not for a federal anti-gay marriage amendment unless and until a similar state constitutional amemdment were struck down by a federal court.
True to his conservative voting record, he's personally against gay marriage. His clever dance on the federalization of the issue is what makes him seem like the moderate he never was.
I honestly don't know who's worse, McCain the RINO or the DINO Joementum. Both of them run away from their voting records, so desparate not to be hated by their opposition that they all but spit in the eyes of their allies. And neither one can state affirmatively what their core beliefs are and what they think is worth fighting for. Neither of these guys ever saw a compromise they didn't like, prizing process over policy every time.
Mind you, I'm all for settling problems as opposed to staking out positions. It's the fundamental way progress ever occurs in negotiating everything from a labor dispute, an international treaty, or a divorce settlement. These guys would both be excellent ambassadors, UN delegates or Secretaries of State. But when it comes to their potential as a presidential candidate, they stand for nothing, promise everything, and will eventually betray everyone.
I honestly don't know who's worse, McCain the RINO or the DINO Joementum. Both of them run away from their voting records
These men may be many things, but neither can be accused of backing away from their voting records...we may not like how they vote on things, but it is not them that is running away from it...hence they have been tagged with the monikers Rep in name only and Dem in name only...
Mark Adams, the high and mighty, hypocritical, bloviator. (mail) (www):
Oh whatever Pam.
McCain's record is one of THE most conservative in Congress, and Joe consistently votes inconsistently -- usually with the Dems as long as it doesn't matter, like his "nay" on Alito's confirmation but voting for cloture, which was the vote that didn't matter.
Both of these guys are the poster children for speaking with forked tongues.
The Fallwell commencement speech is just the tip of the iceberg. It's how he got there that is so loathsome.
This is the Senator McCain that I supported and voted for:Of course that was then and this is now:Jesus God.
You people keep telling me Republicans are OK, that I should consider voting for them. And, you know, I did vote for McCain once. But never, ever, EVER again.
Once upon a time, he was the best of the lot. But McCain has long since passed over the line from "straight-talker" to "butt-kissing Bush lover." And the rest of the Republicans are even worse.
:^)
It isn't a federal deal, it is a states rights issue! That's how I read this.
One thing I admire about McCain is that he speaks his mind and I don't really believe that he has changed his mind on this subject..I just think that many on the left don't want him associated with Falwell (can't say as I blame them), but I must say..my first reaction when I saw where he was speaking was.."I can't believe they would allow him on their campus!"
Whoever the candidate is, Republican or Democrat, ignoring the Christian coalition is not a smart move. Antagonizing them only makes matters worse...but what do I know..I am just a Catholic and according to them I don't count as a Christian...
Imagine how I feel about them, being Jewish.
Even if that something is "not voting for McCain, nuh-uh, no way."
It's a political ploy, folks. DeWine is doing the same in Ohio. McCain, believing he has a shot at the 2008 presidential election is starting early to garner Bush's Christian "base." Other than a complet 180 degree turnaround, what could be more base than that except publicly hugging Bush in '04 after his 2000 primary run was derailed by Rove's grass roots telephone campaign that accused McCain's adopted daughter of being his illegitimate "nigger" baby? Sorry, his unbridled ambition is what makes McCain scum.
And by the way, were you aware that the rumor about Kerry wanting McCain to be his running mate was started by none other than McCain himself (or at least his office) He's been playing us and his party (strategically positioning himself for a 2008 run) for a LONG time.
But if you really believe he's a moderate, I suggest you take a good long look at his voting record. He's never been a moderate as far as I'm concerned, and the war not withstanding, until 1999 he'd been much farther right of center than most.
Helping him move into a dorm his freshman year of college was merely a coincidence at the time.
Actually, if I'm reading the word smithing correctly, McCain is making a very Clintonesque distinction without a difference. He's not for a federal anti-gay marriage amendment unless and until a similar state constitutional amemdment were struck down by a federal court.
True to his conservative voting record, he's personally against gay marriage. His clever dance on the federalization of the issue is what makes him seem like the moderate he never was.
I honestly don't know who's worse, McCain the RINO or the DINO Joementum. Both of them run away from their voting records, so desparate not to be hated by their opposition that they all but spit in the eyes of their allies. And neither one can state affirmatively what their core beliefs are and what they think is worth fighting for. Neither of these guys ever saw a compromise they didn't like, prizing process over policy every time.
Mind you, I'm all for settling problems as opposed to staking out positions. It's the fundamental way progress ever occurs in negotiating everything from a labor dispute, an international treaty, or a divorce settlement. These guys would both be excellent ambassadors, UN delegates or Secretaries of State. But when it comes to their potential as a presidential candidate, they stand for nothing, promise everything, and will eventually betray everyone.
These men may be many things, but neither can be accused of backing away from their voting records...we may not like how they vote on things, but it is not them that is running away from it...hence they have been tagged with the monikers Rep in name only and Dem in name only...
McCain's record is one of THE most conservative in Congress, and Joe consistently votes inconsistently -- usually with the Dems as long as it doesn't matter, like his "nay" on Alito's confirmation but voting for cloture, which was the vote that didn't matter.
Both of these guys are the poster children for speaking with forked tongues.