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Hmm. Can I start listening to Fleetwood Mac again?

They went off my list the night of Clinton's first inaugural. "Don't Stop Thinkin' About Tomorrow" is a song I still can't listen to without feeling disgusted. But my wife just showed me an article in the July 3rd issue of People magazine wherein Stevie Nicks is quoted thus:

"I refuse to be pulled into the politics of war. But once these soldiers sign up, go to war, and come back to a hospital, I will do whatever I have to do to make them better. That is my mission."

Lindsey Buckingham, Christie McVie, and Mic Fleetwood may have differing opinions. I don't know. It wasn't about them. At the very least, I can start humming "Gypsy" again.

Posted by Michael The Rock on 06.27.2006
pam (mail) (www):
Those were wonderful words she said Michael TR...I was never offended by their music, I just isn't my cup of tea..
6.27.2006 9:28pm
Tim_the_Soldier (mail):
Dude, if you couldn't listen to it because of Clinton, you've got some real fucking issues. Get over it already. Clinton spanked Bush Sr. like he owed him money, he did the same with Dole (who I liked btw) and he would have beaten Shrub like it was his J-O-B. I'm sick of people dismissing artists because they don't like their political views or statements.
6.28.2006 12:55am
Rhianna (mail) (www):
Tim I have every right to DISAGREE FORCIBLY from an artist telling me I have to listen to their spiel. No one has told them they can't have their say but I'll use my money to have my say and if I don't like you I'm not buyin' your music or going to see your movies. Don't like it? I don't care! You have no right to attack those that refuse to pay for the 'honor' of being told their idiots, war mongers or criminals for having a different opinion.

The fact the dixie chicks appologized to save their last album and then made sure they took it back to get publicity for this album just proves their publicity whores. I don't need to pay to hear their shit and if you like what they have to say, support them. I don't, I won't and I won't be forced to or be shamed for it.

As for Fleetwood, eh they sold clinton the rights to use it, they licensed the song. That doesn't mean they support the message just that their bank accounts needed the money. I won't discuss their financial dealings as I'm not a member or their accountant.

I was named after a Fleetwood Mac song, however and won't stop listening to them even if a politican I hate uses their songs. Though I do now have a distaste from clinton and his use of that song. I haven't refused to listen to it but there is an instant of 'eck' when I hear it, then I remember it predates "IS has more than one meaning" by decades.

As for Stevie Nicks, I've always respected the woman. She's not always made good choices in her life but she's always owned up to them. She's got one hell of a voice and her talent is strong.
6.28.2006 6:05am
Michael The Rock (mail):

I'm sick of people dismissing artists because they don't like their political views or statements.

When I get the same access to microphones that these celebrities get so that I can spew my own political opinions that no one asked me for, then I'll start buying their albums again. Until then, refusing to line their wallets is the only way I have to express my displeasure. So you get over it.
6.28.2006 11:32am
Tim_the_Soldier (mail):
Michael,

Harmonicas are on sale now at Walmart ;-)
6.28.2006 12:40pm
John Irving 2.0 (mail):
I didn't stop listening to them. Hell, I liked their performance for Clinton/Gore.
6.28.2006 12:54pm
Michael The Rock (mail):
Harmonicas are on sale now at Walmart ;-)

So you are saying that being a successful entertainer gives them the right to a power that average, untalented individuals do not possess? Next you'll be telling me that those with money are the only ones entitled to make the rules and that the rest of us had better sign ourselves into serfdom for protection against Visigoths, Franks, Vandals, and Islamists. Let the dark ages descend again! I'm ready. I'll bet that Lord Sean Hannity would accept my oath of fealty.
6.28.2006 1:08pm
caltechgirl (www):
As for Stevie, she even went to Afghanistan on South Park. My favorite episode.

Of course, she was a goat.
6.28.2006 2:24pm
Tim_the_Soldier (mail):
"Next you'll be telling me that those with money are the only ones entitled to make the rules..."

Money is a free-speech combat multiplier.
6.28.2006 7:50pm
Michael The Rock (mail):

Money is a free-speech combat multiplier.

Undisputed (and well said). But four Ditsy Chicks with [insert large caliber automatic weapon of your choice] will still fall to hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of pissed-off country music fans with the sling shot firepower of refusing to blow $20 on an album or $50-$100 on a concert ticket. If Natalie Maines is thinking in her head, "It doesn't matter that I am not going to be a gazillionaire because of the things I have said. With my mere bazillions, I will be happy enough and happy to have scored some points for my side," then fine, at least I didn't give aid and comfort to my country's enemies by buying her album and helping her become a bazillionaire. But if, in the fetid recesses of her tinfoil hat, she is doing that math and really hating that those redneck fools are costing her seven digit figures per year and eight or nine digits over the course of her career, then great!
6.28.2006 9:01pm
Tim_the_Soldier (mail):
"But if, in the fetid recesses of her tinfoil hat..."

yes, but then again, she's not the "decider" nor did she ever utter the words "...and Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job."

Dave Matthews made similar comments concerning the absurdity of the Bush Administration, but surprisingly it didn't make a splash in the headlines...I guess when a country music performer criticizes you, you really must be fucked up.
6.28.2006 10:31pm
Rhianna (mail) (www):
Tim, the fact is that Maines did it in the UK, on the eave of war, and then LIED about saying it, until PROOF - in the form of a audio recording, popped up. Then she appologized (via the manager) then she didn't (via her), then she did to make them play her music again (there was a massive air boycott), then she trashed Toby Keith (and Reba McEntire among others) for saying she should keep her politics to herself. Then she trashed country music fans of Keith, McEntire and the lot for being "close minded".

Now several years down the road their not playable on country stations, so she starts the crap all over again to get some more media exposure. And you jump in to defend the moron.

It's cool if you like media whores...But they're cheap, they give it away to get their name out there, not because they have any true talent. Says more about those that listen to them than those that don't.
6.29.2006 6:35am
Michael The Rock (mail):

yes, but then again, she's not the "decider" nor did she ever utter the words "...and Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job."

This is not even to the point. I never said she doesn't have the right to criticize the president. I implied that I use my feeble economic power to demonstrate opposition to her, for which you criticized me.

What this thread demonstrates is that you think that statements you approve of should be allowed to exist in a vacuum, above reproach, while statements you disapprove must be belittled or otherwise quashed as quickly as possible:

I'm sick of people dismissing artists because they don't like their political views or statements.

If I paid the Dixie Chicks to entertain at my daughter's birthday party, and Natalie Maines spent five minutes slamming my daughter's looks or her guests' apparel, do you think I should just stand there and take it? I hope you'd answer in the negative. So why should I pay to listen to her criticize my president and my country? Do you like to pay to be made unhappy? Now that would be some 'real ****ing issues'.
6.29.2006 12:01pm
Tom Hawkson (mail) (www):
Yeah, inserting religion or politics into your entertainment in an insulting fashion is insulting your customers. And insulting your customers is bad marketing.

Yours,
Wince
6.29.2006 5:59pm
Rhianna (mail) (www):
I re-read the post and the comments. Gypsy was never my fav Mac song. I prefer Rhiannon (for obvious reasons) and then Landslide.

And no Wince, you are correct, you don't trash you fans. Not an intelligent business move, but to throw temper-tantrums like a spoilt brat because your fans are no longer your fans, that makes it much worse. We might be able to forgive, if not forget, the politics. But the fact she has to whine on a regular basis about it proves she's a spoilt brat, thinking that she can have her say but no one can say anything to disagree with her.
6.30.2006 1:21pm

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