On the killing UN observers intentionally, the Canadian that's presumed dead had something vastly different to say about it. HIS OWN WORDS on the conflict. CNN of course carefully CENSORED what Major Hess-von Kruedener had to say.
The "money quote" for me is
We have now switched to Observation Post Duties and are observing any and all violations as they occur.
This is all the information of a non-tactical nature that I can provide you. I cannot give you any info on Hezbollah position, proximity or the amount of or types of sorties the IAF is currently flying. Suffice to say that the activity levels and operational tempo of both parties is currently very high and continuous, with short breaks or pauses. Please understand the nature of my job here is to be impartial and to report violations from both sides without bias. As an Unarmed Military Observer, this is my raison d'etre.
I want to see the UN release those "violations from both sides". I doubt they will, just as the msm goes out of it's way to show the UN flag without showing the hizzbullah flag right next to it, many times higher and more visible than it.
Mark Adams, the high and mighty, hypocritical, bloviator. (mail) (www):
Go get her ++! She need's sKooling.
Rhianna, suffice to say you've waded hip deep into some propaganda camouflaged by the fog of war. You don't know, can't know, what really happened, and neither do I, but I trust DPU could find some interesting info for your enlightenment if you asked nice, cuz there's a bunch out there.
I've got better things to do right now, but I'll check you later and see how your study group is doing. Don't forget to get your parent's to sign your permission slip for next week's field trip.
I hope that Democrats are afraid of losing “the base.” The base of the Democratic Party are the only people who can possibly save the country, or perhaps the world, right now – and I hope that scares the crap out of you as much as it does me. They’re grownups, not simple-minded zealots and ideologues like Zionists and Republicans. They can actually hold two thought at the same time.
For instance, if “Arab opinion might have shifted when the reporting of the civilian Lebanese body count,” and Bush did nothing to dissuade Israel from killing Lebanese civilians, how can that not be somewhat Bush’s fault?
The Democratic base also wonders what the ME would look like if we’d kept our eye on the ball in Afghanistan and the West Bank, instead of launching an imperial war and occupation on a sovereign Muslim country. What if we had spent one tenth of the treasure on building institutions and infrastructure in Afghanistan that we will spend on the Iraq debacle? What would the Arab street think of us then and what effect might that have had on the zealots’ attempts to radicalize them. How would the Arab peoples have reacted to Hezbollah’s provocation and Israel’s response if Israel had made any honest attempt to help the Palestinians achieve a viable state?
We’ll never know what the world would look like had we had six years of adult leadership by people who understand something beside coercion and brute force but we do know that after three years of complete foreign policy control of Middle East policy by neoconservative ideologues, they and their White House enablers, as well as our ungrateful benefice in the ME, own whatever happens there.
Oh, wait, a Canadian MISSING PRESUMED DEAD BY ISRAELI hands sends an e-mail back to Canada that's posted on a Canadian news site and it's all Isreali propoganda. Jesus, and I need to buy a clue? Dude, tell me where ya'll shop so I can avoid it - BDS is apparently terminal to braincells.
So if I read Shep's usual paint-by-numbers ranting about Iraq correctly, he thinks the Neocon vision of transforming the Middle East through democracy was legitimate, we just should have concentrated solely and completely on building up Afghanistan. Notwithstanding the fact that it's the poorest, least influential country in the region, is geographically on the fringe and barely qualifies as part of the Middle East, and the people there are not Arabic and don't really speak Arabic, I suppose it might have worked.
As I said, find a clue, Rhianna. You're hallucinating, I didn't say anything about Israeli propoganda. That's the shrieking voice in your alleged brain.
Notwithstanding the fact that it's the poorest, least influential country in the region, is geographically on the fringe and barely qualifies as part of the Middle East, and the people there are not Arabic and don't really speak Arabic, I suppose it might have worked.
Interesting. So the better idea is to royally fuck up a really influential country?
Sorry. Of course, I meant democratize.
Then again, attempting democratic reform (which seems a little more difficult and complex than many originally thought) of this nature might well have been easier in a less influential region like Afghanistan, and the consequences of failure less severe than that which is occurring in Iraq.
“...he thinks the Neocon vision of transforming the Middle East through democracy was legitimate, we just should have concentrated solely and completely on building up Afghanistan.”
Like I said, we can actually hold two thoughts at the same time and, if you could read outside your one-dimensional, anti-Democratic, paint-by-numbers ideology, you would have noticed that I also mentioned the West Bank, i.e., Palestine. That could have been a pretty “influential” democratization had we helped it to succeed, don’t you think (oh, right)?
And I hope that you aren’t trying to peddle that “transforming the Middle East through democracy” kool-aid to me. Puppet governments and forward bases installed at the point of a gun and sold on lies about strategic security threats don’t quite match the rhetoric. But I’m sure it will taste fine to those who thirst for some rationalization for the hell they’ve helped to unleash.
The "money quote" for me is
I want to see the UN release those "violations from both sides". I doubt they will, just as the msm goes out of it's way to show the UN flag without showing the hizzbullah flag right next to it, many times higher and more visible than it.
Geez, what a dope.
Rhianna, suffice to say you've waded hip deep into some propaganda camouflaged by the fog of war. You don't know, can't know, what really happened, and neither do I, but I trust DPU could find some interesting info for your enlightenment if you asked nice, cuz there's a bunch out there.
I've got better things to do right now, but I'll check you later and see how your study group is doing. Don't forget to get your parent's to sign your permission slip for next week's field trip.
For instance, if “Arab opinion might have shifted when the reporting of the civilian Lebanese body count,” and Bush did nothing to dissuade Israel from killing Lebanese civilians, how can that not be somewhat Bush’s fault?
The Democratic base also wonders what the ME would look like if we’d kept our eye on the ball in Afghanistan and the West Bank, instead of launching an imperial war and occupation on a sovereign Muslim country. What if we had spent one tenth of the treasure on building institutions and infrastructure in Afghanistan that we will spend on the Iraq debacle? What would the Arab street think of us then and what effect might that have had on the zealots’ attempts to radicalize them. How would the Arab peoples have reacted to Hezbollah’s provocation and Israel’s response if Israel had made any honest attempt to help the Palestinians achieve a viable state?
We’ll never know what the world would look like had we had six years of adult leadership by people who understand something beside coercion and brute force but we do know that after three years of complete foreign policy control of Middle East policy by neoconservative ideologues, they and their White House enablers, as well as our ungrateful benefice in the ME, own whatever happens there.
Or not.
Fascinating nonetheless.
As I said, find a clue, Rhianna. You're hallucinating, I didn't say anything about Israeli propoganda. That's the shrieking voice in your alleged brain.
Interesting. So the better idea is to royally fuck up a really influential country?
Sorry. Of course, I meant democratize.
Then again, attempting democratic reform (which seems a little more difficult and complex than many originally thought) of this nature might well have been easier in a less influential region like Afghanistan, and the consequences of failure less severe than that which is occurring in Iraq.
Just a thought.
Like I said, we can actually hold two thoughts at the same time and, if you could read outside your one-dimensional, anti-Democratic, paint-by-numbers ideology, you would have noticed that I also mentioned the West Bank, i.e., Palestine. That could have been a pretty “influential” democratization had we helped it to succeed, don’t you think (oh, right)?
And I hope that you aren’t trying to peddle that “transforming the Middle East through democracy” kool-aid to me. Puppet governments and forward bases installed at the point of a gun and sold on lies about strategic security threats don’t quite match the rhetoric. But I’m sure it will taste fine to those who thirst for some rationalization for the hell they’ve helped to unleash.
I was feeling too mellow yesterday...
My sincerest apologies.
Sympathy about a year from now would be nice when I hit the half-century mark.