I'm not judging. The case hasn't come to court yet - but the word of one stripper claiming she wasn't raped isn't good enough to say no one was raped. Just as the word of one stripper saying she was raped is proof she was.
Women lie about it, men won't admit they did it or that it happened to them. Society as a whole likes to pull the "look what her job was", "look what she was dressed like", "she shouldn't have gotten drunk", "he should have kept it in his pants", etc lines. All well and good but if it was YOUR sister, would you believe her or the other stripper? Would you believe him if it was YOUR brother, or the accuser? That's why we have standards of evidence in the US courts.
The fact the university has gone out of it's way to keep this shit quiet doesn't bode well for anyone. It just adds more fuel to the atheletes get special treatment fire. I wonder, if they investigated college campuses in the US, would the USAFA look like a cake walk for sexual assault victims? Consider the Kobe case - they smeared her and yet he went so far as to appologize. If he was innocent, why did he do so? Should we use that as a basis for proof they did it? Or should we remember the Brawley case and use it as proof all women lie about rape?
Rape is one of the most under reported crimes - precicely because of this fiasco of incompetent cops, DA's with political axes, colleges protecting their bottom lines and the kitchen sink from every pundit in the land.
Unless you were in the room Rose, you don't know any more than what you've read in the papers, and all papers have axes to grind and political views to support. And they all feed into the blinders every human willingly wears.
I'll wait for their day in court - if it ever happens. And if it doesn't, I'll be really interested in just WHO made sure they didn't go to court - their defenders, or those set to prosecute them. That alone will give you more information than any article or news program.
Read through 'Durham in Wonderland's' blog on the subject.
The university has been against the students since the accusations were made. They're suspended from college, unable to tread on school ground, and many of the teachers (The Gang of 88) came out as extremely hostile to them.
As for whether or not the case comes to trial, the prosecution has made several mis-steps in this case. The lineup ID was most likely completely unconstitutional and will be thrown out. They strongly proclaimed how the DNA evidence would prove their case, yet when the DNA evidence came back with nothing they said they didn't need it.
Oh, and they've continually ignored evidence that pretty much makes it impossible for one of the supposed rapists to have taken part.
This case is already over from a legal standpoint.
I thought it was about Patty Duke at first...
Women lie about it, men won't admit they did it or that it happened to them. Society as a whole likes to pull the "look what her job was", "look what she was dressed like", "she shouldn't have gotten drunk", "he should have kept it in his pants", etc lines. All well and good but if it was YOUR sister, would you believe her or the other stripper? Would you believe him if it was YOUR brother, or the accuser? That's why we have standards of evidence in the US courts.
The fact the university has gone out of it's way to keep this shit quiet doesn't bode well for anyone. It just adds more fuel to the atheletes get special treatment fire. I wonder, if they investigated college campuses in the US, would the USAFA look like a cake walk for sexual assault victims? Consider the Kobe case - they smeared her and yet he went so far as to appologize. If he was innocent, why did he do so? Should we use that as a basis for proof they did it? Or should we remember the Brawley case and use it as proof all women lie about rape?
Rape is one of the most under reported crimes - precicely because of this fiasco of incompetent cops, DA's with political axes, colleges protecting their bottom lines and the kitchen sink from every pundit in the land.
Unless you were in the room Rose, you don't know any more than what you've read in the papers, and all papers have axes to grind and political views to support. And they all feed into the blinders every human willingly wears.
I'll wait for their day in court - if it ever happens. And if it doesn't, I'll be really interested in just WHO made sure they didn't go to court - their defenders, or those set to prosecute them. That alone will give you more information than any article or news program.
The university has been against the students since the accusations were made. They're suspended from college, unable to tread on school ground, and many of the teachers (The Gang of 88) came out as extremely hostile to them.
As for whether or not the case comes to trial, the prosecution has made several mis-steps in this case. The lineup ID was most likely completely unconstitutional and will be thrown out. They strongly proclaimed how the DNA evidence would prove their case, yet when the DNA evidence came back with nothing they said they didn't need it.
Oh, and they've continually ignored evidence that pretty much makes it impossible for one of the supposed rapists to have taken part.
This case is already over from a legal standpoint.
And that's why I wouldn't vote to convict without convincing physical evidence. I don't know what happened and neither does anyone else.