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The Center for Media and Public Affairs at George Mason University released their Election Study and they found something very interesting.

Who’s Fair and Balanced?: Fox News Channel’s coverage was more balanced toward both parties than the broadcast networks were. On FOX, evaluations of all Democratic candidates combined were split almost evenly – 51% positive vs. 49% negative, as were all evaluations of GOP candidates – 49% positive vs. 51% negative, producing a perfectly balanced 50-50 split for all candidates of both parties. On the three broadcast networks, opinion on Democratic candidates split 47% positive vs. 53% negative, while evaluations of Republicans were more negative – 40% positive vs. 60% negative. For both parties combined, network evaluations were almost 3 to 2 negative in tone, i.e. 41% positive vs. 59% negative.

They also found that Hillary Clinton is the favorite target of all on air news. Negative target, that is...

Posted by Rosemary on 12.27.2007
Mark Adams, who's always correct, get used to it. (mail) (www):
There's a couple of gaping holes in the methodology. First, most obvious, is that this is about "news" stories, and therefore by definition doesn't include analysis of O'Reilly, Hannity and that other guy, or the neocon roundtable every Sunday morning, the three highest rated programs on the network.

Second, since it didn't count candidates talking about other candidates, it gets around the inconvenient Hillary bashing by Rudy McRomny played over and over and over.

Seeing as there is so much wrong right now. The constitution trashing, economy dumping, poverty increasing, health care cost exploding ... oh and still a lot of folks dying "over there" as the Taliban regroups in the Paki-Afghan hills -- I should think that any talk of the government is being disingenuous if it isn't 80% negative. But you FOX watchers wouldn't know about any of that stuff.
12.27.2007 3:19am
shep (mail):
Not to mention, negative reporting toward Republicans could be just plain accurate analysis, or even “underreporting”.

Though FOX's positive/negative toward Democrats, relative to the other networks, is quite interesting.
12.27.2007 3:49am
Tom Hawkson (mail) (www):
There's a couple of gaping holes in the methodology.

Objective analysis of news reporting, if described as a garment, has always involved much more air than cloth. The range is from the Emperor's new clothes to something named after an atoll in the Pacific.

Definitely not a nun's habit.

Yours,
Wince
12.27.2007 12:16pm
Ara Rubyan (www):
This emphasis on "fair and balanced coverage" is absurd. It is what generates this all too common kind of crap:

“The Republicans say the Earth is flat, while the Democrats say the Earth is round - coming up: The Shape Of The Planet - Two Sides Of The Debate”

Sometimes there is no "other side" and pretending there is .. well, it's BS.
12.27.2007 12:56pm
ryanr:
Wince- the soldiers named the atoll after the bathing suit, not the other way round.

Ryan
12.27.2007 12:58pm
Tom Hawkson (mail) (www):
Let's not throw the baby out because the bath did not result in perfect cleanliness. The methods used in this study are informative. The notion that someone could definitively show either the presence or lack of objectivity is absurb, but attempts to measure objectivity - even subjective attempts - are the only way to better approximate objectivity, if that is what we desire.

We need more studies like this, not less, with a greater variety of methodologies. They will all be flawed, but not useless.

Yours,
Wince
12.27.2007 3:33pm
Ara Rubyan (www):
Tim: it really starts with asking the right question. If you do that, the answers are useful. If not, forget it.

The standard should not be "fairness," but rather "truth."

P.S. Sorry for putting quotes around those words, but you get the picture.
12.27.2007 4:20pm
Dean Esmay (www):
An unsurprising result for anyone who's taken and honest and objective look at the numerous studies over the years.

NPR is also surprisingly well-balanced; their talk show hosts and programs skew very much to the left, but their actual news coverage is very balanced. (Which similar studies have shown, by the way.)
12.27.2007 6:24pm
Tim_the_Soldier (aka thread killer and nun thriller) (mail):
What if the "truth" is actually left? If that's the case, not only are we correct, the right is that much more removed from the truth. I suspect that is the case; however, you have to take each issue individually rather than siding with a particular party or political ideology in order to avoid blind bias towards one side or in blind support of another.
12.27.2007 6:57pm
Tom Hawkson (mail) (www):
As usual, when moderate Dean shows up (not immoderate Dean), he immediately makes far more sense than Ara or Mark.

Yours,
Wince
12.27.2007 7:43pm
ryanr:
Ara- ideally, truth is what we're looking for. But since we don't know what that is, we can't measure its presence in news coverage. We can fact check, but as we all know it's as much about what you leave out as what you put in, and there is no objective way of deciding what ought to go in. So fairness is the only useful metric we have, even if it isn't perfect.

Ryan
12.27.2007 8:49pm
Ara Rubyan (www):
truth is what we're looking for. But since we don't know what that is, we can't measure its presence in news coverage.

That's baloney and you know it. The world is round. If someone disputes that then you, as a news reporter, report that they are wrong.

Anything less makes you a navel-gazing, pointy headed intellectual -- not a news reporter.

This "he said she said" nonsense is a game people play when they know they're wrong and they need to hide in the tall grass.
12.27.2007 9:04pm
ryanr:
That's what I meant by fact checking. What I mean is stuff like "the surge is working" or "Hillary is the best candidate"- stuff where there is disagreement and really nailing things down can't be done. That encompasses very nearly everything we talk about here. By all means, fact check all you want, but that only goes so far.

Ryan
12.27.2007 9:19pm
Tim_the_Soldier (aka thread killer and nun thriller) (mail):
Hillary makes me want to surge....if you know what I mean. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge!!

You know, before the thread goes too far, I'd thought I'd try and kill it while it was young. That may be sad, but nothing is sadder than a young republican.
12.27.2007 9:29pm
ryanr:
Well, watching ones country go to the dogs can do that. ;)

Ryan
12.27.2007 9:34pm
Mark Adams, who's always correct, get used to it. (mail) (www):
BLOW ME WINCE.

Nothing Dean said takes away from my comment in the least. Indeed, I agree with what he said and am aware that this is not the first such study, re: NPR and FOX, that has made this observation. Note I distinguished between the "news" and editorializing, just as he did.

Five minute of arguably objective blurbs at the top and bottom of the hour cannot outweigh 50 minutes of climate-change ridiculing, liberal mocking, supply-side promoting, War on Christmas bloviating, missing blond bimbo obsessing, Bush apologizing, corporate shilling, torture enabling, civil rights abolishing, flat-earth nonsense that masquerades as programing on that network.

And neither does the rarely seen lucid and possibly sober statement from Mr. Esmay fool me into believing he is becoming a savant.

I suspect that FOX is especially careful in their "news" coverage because they know that it will be carefully scrutinized for bias due to their well known conservative editorial policy, just as much of the rest of the MSM bend over backwards to avoid being slurred as part of the so-called "Liberal Media," resulting in a "fairness" to conservative hogwash that would not otherwise be justified.
12.27.2007 10:36pm
CosmicConservative (mail) (www):
Man, some of you have really drunk the BDS kool-aid. When you start asserting that your opponents are wrong on every issue simply because they are your opponents, you have gone far beyond anything but pure ideological zealotry.

It's sorta scary reading some of this stuff. It really is. It's like that NY Times writer who said it would be a "silver lining" if global warming killed off the bulk of conservatives, and that the remainder should be "gerrymandered into impotence."

Some of you are so far gone you don't even recognize when you passed from anger to fascism.
12.28.2007 11:15pm
Mark Adams, who's always correct, get used to it. (mail) (www):
First of all, Dave Lindorff wrote that in the Baltimore Chronicle, not the NY Times. He's never written for the Times.
Two, the editorial was intended to be satirical. Cut back on the Bourbon next time you take a sip of my Kool Aide.

It sounds like you "don't even recognize when you passed from" inebriation to ignorance.

And may god strike me dead if this foolish "Liberal Fascism" meme actually takes hold among the normal, non-Bush apologist population.

CC, calling you a dickhead is not fascism, merely impolite. See the difference?
12.28.2007 11:57pm
shep (mail):
"CC, calling you a dickhead is not fascism, merely impolite. See the difference?"

No, they obviously don't. They just can't fathom that the right-wing promotion and use of fear and violence to further their ends (while only a very few nutballs on the left do any such thing) is why fascism is a reliably right-wing phenomenon. The rest is just projection.
12.29.2007 4:53pm
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