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Obama Gets Schooled By McCain

Looks like Barack Obama needs to have his people do some research before he lets the rhetoric fly. He's starting to sound like the looney lefty he is, rather than a man ready to be President.

In the unimpressive debate the other night, Obama said:

Mr. Obama had said in response to a hypothetical question that although he intended to withdraw American forces as rapidly as possible, he reserved the right to send troops back in “if Al Qaeda is forming a base in Iraq.”

McCain fired back to that very stupid and ill-informed comment with this:

“I have some news,” he said at a town-hall-style meeting in Tyler, Tex. “Al Qaeda is in Iraq. It’s called ‘Al Qaeda in Iraq.’ My friends, if we left, they wouldn’t be establishing a base. They’d be taking a country, and I’m not going to allow that to happen.”

Obama responds with the same regurgitated bullshit I've heard from every liberal:

“I have some news for John McCain,” Mr. Obama said at a large rally at Ohio State University. “There was no such thing as Al Qaeda in Iraq until George Bush and John McCain decided to invade Iraq.”

WRONG!!!!! Even Richard Clarke knows that was wrong. Richard Clarke worried that Osama would "boogie to Baghdad" if we invaded Afghanistan. "Clarke's opinion was based on intelligence indicating a number of contacts between al Qaeda and Iraq, including word that Saddam had offered bin Laden safe haven." Yeah, and Clarke got the intel from CNN.

Time to go back to school Barack or at least hire some better researchers for your speech writers...

Posted by Rosemary on 02.28.2008
Mark Adams, who's always correct, get used to it. (mail) (www):
Heh. Good luck with this one. Just accept the fact that this round went to Obama.
2.28.2008 10:42am
Rosemary, Queen of All Evil (mail):
I will not! And you can't make me... ;-)
2.28.2008 10:48am
Ara Rubyan (www):
Obama spanked McCain good:


“There was no such thing as Al Qaeda in Iraq until George Bush and John McCain decided to invade Iraq.”
More sentences please with "Bush and McCain" in them.

"...McCain decided to invade Iraq."

Advantage Obama.

P.S. McCain is like the old man at the supermarket who's confused by the automatic doors. He probably thinks the Internet is a series of tubes.
2.28.2008 11:11am
Ara Rubyan (www):
Hey Rose, I missed the best part. Here's what Obama said about your candidate, Sen. "Hundred Years" McCain:

"I've gone some news for John McCain: He took us into a war, along with George Bush, that should have never been authorized and never been waged. They took their eye off the people who were responsible for 9/11, and that would be al Qaeda in Afghanistan that is stronger now than anytime since 2001."

"I've been paying attention John McCain! That's the news," Obama roared into the mic so loudly that he was barely intelligible. The crowd of college students screamed encouragingly.

[press reports put the crowd at 10 thousand. Meanwhile McCain is speaking to crowds of a couple of hundred at most. What a loser.]

"So John McCain may like to say he wants to follow Osama bin Laden to the gates of Hell," Obama said, "but so far all he's done is follow George Bush into a misguided war in Iraq that's cost us thousands of lives and billions of dollars."
Obama "gets it:" Tie President "19%" Bush around McCain's neck like the cinder block that he is and let them both sink to the bottom of the ocean.

Have fun voting for McCain in the fall, Rose.
2.28.2008 11:27am
matoko_chan (mail):
O is right...there was no "al-Qaeda in Iraq" at the time of Gulf II.
there was a group of al-ansar al-islam i think that was doing some work with Ricin and biological weapons with Iranian fundage close to the border.

i think a much bigger problem for mccain is just physical appearance. in a debate with O he is going to look very old and very short.
the more pictures there are in the media, the more advantage to O.
john and cindy mccain are nice looking for old ppl, but the obamas look like movie stars.

i guess im technically an obamacan, that is a registered repub that is supporting O.
but i made up my own word...since im so into anime

obamataku
;)
2.28.2008 3:00pm
matoko_chan (mail):
or obamotaku...both work.
2.28.2008 3:15pm
matoko_chan (mail):
mccain is in a very diffcult position in trying to be not-bush, and court the conservatives and indepentdents.
1. hes isomorphic with bush on a war that has largely lost support with the electorate.
2. he has voted for ESCR twice. that screws him with the theocons. 1/3 of the republican party there. if he tries to swing towards pro-LIFE! O can can scare the pro-choice independents with the threat of Roe v. Wade being overturned by mccain seating a theocon justice on the supremes.
3. he has screwed the libertarians and constitutionalists with McCainFeingold.


bad juju
2.28.2008 3:53pm
IB Bill (mail):
How is it a blog manages to attract exactly the wrong sort of commenters. This is the opposite of the echo chamber -- it's a contradiction chamber.

Host: Yes.
Commenters: No.
Host: Yes, because ...
Commenters: No, because ...
2.28.2008 4:25pm
Ara Rubyan (www):
Yes.
2.28.2008 5:21pm
CosmicConservative (mail) (www):
Man, the way the Left clings to the fantasy of the anti-Bush dogma is very instructive. I wonder how long it will last?

How many Youtube clips of Democrats talking about Al Qada in Iraq or WMD in Iraq or Hussein building a nuclear bomb are required to prove the lies?

Well, apparently the answer is a whole lot more than "hundreds."

But those who say Obama won this round are right. He won it rhetorically, not factually. But for the great majority of Americans, facts don't matter. Just read above to see what I mean.
2.28.2008 6:05pm
Ara Rubyan (www):
Man, the way the Left clings to the fantasy of the anti-Bush dogma is very instructive.

You're hopeless.

To you, it's all about preserving, protecting and defending George W. Bush no matter what.
2.28.2008 6:26pm
Rosemary, Queen of All Evil (mail):
LOL

Ara, you crack me up!!!!
2.28.2008 6:36pm
Tom Hawkson (mail) (www):
Finally another Conservative shows up. Hunt around on the other threads, CosmicConservative. I'm tired of being outnumbered.

Yours,
Wince
2.28.2008 7:30pm
shep (mail):
"But for the great majority of Americans, facts don't matter."

Right from the horse's...mouth. (It was tempting)
2.28.2008 7:33pm
matoko_chan (mail):
hey!

im a registered republican

but ima biocon....i think cosmic is a theocon.
2.28.2008 7:54pm
IB Bill (mail):
Wince, yeah, there aren't many conservatives, and we don't seem to comment as often or as quickly. Probably conserving our commentary, whereas the others seem to be liberal with theirs :)
2.28.2008 8:23pm
IB Bill (mail):
BTW, Obama, like so many liberals, is (arguably) right on the facts, but wrong on the point. (The point is Al Qaeda is in Iraq now, and what do we do about it now?) His answer is really more of a non-sequitur than he makes it appear. But hey, you need a good Catholic education to understand this stuff.

BTW, Bill Clinton used to be a master of this sort of thing, Jesuit-trained as he was.

That said, I just learned Obama smokes cigarettes, so now I'm not so worried about him. Anyone still smoking cigarettes after all this time has got to be an independent thinker, and not some kind of idealogue. Or at least he's one hell of an addict. Either way, he's got the cigarette thing going for him.
2.28.2008 8:30pm
Mark Adams, who's always correct, get used to it. (mail) (www):
BTW, Obama, like so many liberals, is (arguably) right on the facts, but wrong on the point. (The point is Al Qaeda is in Iraq now, and what do we do about it now?)

No. Just no.

Obama was answering a hypothetical that presupposed that al Quaeda in Iraq was taken care of, and if there was a resurgence, would he go back in.

Now check his answer instead of indicting him on Russert's hypothetical.

UB Bill, you're engaging in crackpottery.
2.28.2008 10:24pm
Ara Rubyan (www):
Crackpottery. Great word!
2.29.2008 12:25pm
Adam (mail):
On those Iraq nukes: were those the ones sketched (literally) on the cocktail napkin, or the parts buried in that guy's garden?
3.1.2008 11:17am
Brian Macker (mail) (www):
There were terrorists operating out of Florida too. Including the very ones that took down the WTC. If we can't control our own territory what makes us think we can control territory occupied by a bunch of fratricidal Muslims.
3.2.2008 2:25pm
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