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Hillary: Wright, Farrakhan and Hamas Are Fair game!

Link: sevenload.com

I'm a bit emotional right now. When I see perfectly executed calculation, it touches me deep. Not only did Hillary say that the Rev. Wright issue is a legitimate issue but then at the end... [sniff, sniff] When she tied in Farrakhan and Hamas, a single tear spilled down my cheek the way it did when I beheld the Matka Boska Częstochowska, in 1994.

Posted by Rosemary on 04.17.2008
Ara Rubyan (www):
Here's a list of some of the stuff Charlie Gibson never got to (in alpha order):

Afghanistan, War in
Attacks on organized labor and the working class
China
Civil Liberties, Destruction of
Collapse of housing values in the US and around the world
Decline of American manufacturing
Declining value of the US Dollar
Education
Energy
Financial crisis
Global warming
Government surveillance
Health care, lack of
Immigration
Pakistan, Osama bin Laden in
Supreme Court
Terrorism and al Qaeda
Torture, Presidential OK of
Trade
World food crisis

Worst "debate" ever.
4.17.2008 12:38am
shep (mail):
Didn't you mean, "[w]hen I see a perfectly calculated execution..."?

Obama's victimization was surpassed only by that of intelligent Americans everywhere.
4.17.2008 1:58am
Mark Adams, who's always correct, get used to it. (mail) (www):
Totally predictable that they'd spend an hour on fluff. Last Sunday they had no less than 5 reporters covering the grave implication Obama's 733t-ness would have on the voters on the All Bitter Channel.

Nothing at that network about the food riots going on around the world. Nothing about Bush admitting he was personally involved in meetings which reasonably could be construed as conspiracies to commit war crimes. Not even a story about Putin's new 25 yr.old Babe he left his wife for and rigged the elections to get her a job.

That network used to cover the news, but since Ted Koppel left it's like watching Oprah 24/7.

But really Rose, did you expect George Stephanopolis to really go after his old boss's wife? Ain't gonna happen. I like George S. He grew up not far from me. But he's in the tank for Hillary, he can't help it. And Gibson, well. I had higher expectations for him than he evidently deserved. Thank goodness Edwards wasn't in this thing or it would have been another 20 minutes on hair care product questions.

Awful debate. The last three were progressively better, even with my guy quitting the next was better than one before, until now. I refuse to click the Youtube link because I know I will lose brain cells for watching it again.
4.17.2008 3:47am
Ara Rubyan (www):
Well, at least they didn't ask Obama about his bowling.

since Ted Koppel left it's like watching Oprah 24/7.

More like The View.
4.17.2008 7:31am
Mark Adams, who's always correct, get used to it. (mail) (www):
I just hope this is the last one, cuz Katy Couric is scheduled to moderate the next "IF" they decide they need another pissing match Hillary's lousy taste in shoes and Barack's outright lies about whether he prefers Converse to Nike sneakers.

YEAH, I SAID IT. HILLARY HAS SHITTY TASTE IN SHOES.

[IWH]
4.17.2008 8:37am
Ara Rubyan (www):
Tom Shales, Washington Post:
To this observer, ABC's coverage seemed slanted against Obama. The director cut several times to reaction shots of such Clinton supporters as her daughter, Chelsea, who sat in the audience at the Kimmel Theater in Philly's National Constitution Center. Obama supporters did not get equal screen time, giving the impression that there weren't any in the hall.

The director also clumsily chose to pan the audience at the very start of the debate, when the candidates made their opening statements, so Obama and Clinton were barely seen before the first commercial break.

At the end, Gibson pompously thanked the candidates -- or was he really patting himself on the back? -- for "what I think has been a fascinating debate." He's entitled to his opinion, but the most fascinating aspect was waiting to see how low he and Stephanopoulos would go, and then being appalled at the answer.
Next up: the reaction from the host and her racist "Kill Whitey" sidekick. They'll tell us that "You liberals suck, you can't stand the truth -- Hillary rocks!"

Weird thing is, I can remember back when Hillary was a liberal.
4.17.2008 8:58am
Rosemary, Queen of All Evil (mail):
I'll concede that Hillary has shitty taste in shoes but...she is over 60. I rarely see women that old wearing Manolo Blahnik or Jimmy Choo. IJS

I'm not going to say that you liberals suck... I know that Hillary doesn't suck, Bill Clinton proved that most convincingly. Besides after TappyToes McWidestance, Ted Haggard, etc... saying that conservatives don't suck would be a bit tough since clearly many of them blow...

Did I expect those hard hitting reporters George Stephanopoulis and Charlie Gibson to go after anyone? LOL

I thought is was going to be a typical liberal circlejerk. And it was...B-O-R-I-N-G!
4.17.2008 9:52am
matoko_chan (mail):
well...that was a sweet moment when O ganked HRC with bill's weathermen pardons.
;)
4.17.2008 10:23am
matoko_chan (mail):
hey, rosie...are u gonna do any pope-bloggin?
K-Lo has gone mad i think.

in spite of my years of catholic upbring i'm finding it hard to relate to this pope...he looks like uncle fester and sounds like boris badenov "mekkin beeg trubble for moose an squirrl"
4.17.2008 10:39am
Rosemary, Queen of All Evil (mail):
I don't think so. I was a big JP2 fan being Polish and really I thought he was an amazing Pope and person but this guy is not getting me excited. Not at all.
4.17.2008 10:56am
Rosemary, Queen of All Evil (mail):
well...that was a sweet moment when O ganked HRC with bill's weathermen pardons.
;)


I loved that. Right after he whined about not being held accountable for things that his close associates did...he turns around and tries to do exactly that to Hillary. What a fucking hypocritical whiner! I know he's pushing 50 but he acted very high school...
4.17.2008 10:58am
Ara Rubyan (www):
Hee!

I know I should have more respect for the boss of all Catholics, but Jon Stewart nailed it for me.

"My God, the Pope's plane is invisible! No!"

...and you have to see the report from JNN.
4.17.2008 11:06am
Ara Rubyan (www):
What a fucking hypocritical whiner!

Of course.

Better he should:

a) Do it first, before anyone does to him, or

b) Man up and take his whuppin with a smile.

I don't know. I can't decide.

What do you think he should do, Mr. "kill whitey" WonderBra?
4.17.2008 11:12am
Ara Rubyan (www):
Speaking of racists, is that a swastika in your sidebar or are you just happy to see Mr. WhiteBoy?

Dennis Basso may or may not be a Nazi, but really -- can't those people settle that somewhere else?
4.17.2008 11:20am
Rosemary, Queen of All Evil (mail):
Angry liberals pay the bills like everyone else! Why is it that you liberals like to call everyone a nazi?

Is it because the education system in this country is so fucking shitty that you guys just don't know what Nazis are? That's my guess.

"...blah, blah, blah, everyone's Hitler, blah, blah, bah... everyone's a nazi... blah, blah, blah, let's invade Poland...blah, blah, blah...racist!...blah, blah, blah"
4.17.2008 11:26am
Ara Rubyan (www):
You're the one with a swastika on your web page.

IJS.
4.17.2008 11:34am
Ara Rubyan (www):
"...blah, blah, blah, everyone's Hitler, blah, blah, bah... everyone's a nazi... blah, blah, blah, let's invade Poland...blah, blah, blah...racist!...blah, blah, blah"

"I bring a message of hope and change ... blah, blah, blah, blah, kill whitey, blah, blah, blah."
4.17.2008 11:36am
Ara Rubyan (www):
P.S. For the record, I said Dennis Basso may or may not be a Nazi. Personally I've never heard of the guy but you're the one running the ad with the swastika.
4.17.2008 11:44am
shep (mail):
"Right after he whined about not being held accountable for things that his close associates did...he turns around and tries to do exactly that to Hillary. What a fucking hypocritical whiner!"

Not really. Democrats are just done with bringing our encyclopedias to the gunfight.
4.17.2008 11:50am
Rosemary, Queen of All Evil (mail):
Ara,

LOL... Ara said Kill Whitey!

BURN HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4.17.2008 12:11pm
Ara Rubyan (www):
Emotion (not issues) moves voters:
Voters say they dislike those tactics, but they still continue to dictate election outcomes, largely because the tactics are deployed in such a one-sided manner, and are therefore highly effective.

These themes trigger potent psychological, emotional and tribal responses and, if left unrefuted, will virtually always overwhelm rational consideration of "issues."
This very blog is proof, every single day, of that very idea.

There are no issues here anymore (if there ever were); only "The Queen of All Evil" and "Mr. Kill Whitey WonderBoy."
4.17.2008 12:16pm
Rosemary, Queen of All Evil (mail):
C'mon, there are plenty of issues. You guys just can't argue them with facts so you turn every issue post into attacks on our character.

I'm fine with either.
4.17.2008 12:53pm
shep (mail):
"You guys just can't argue them with facts so you turn every issue post into attacks on our character."

Hahahahahahaha! Not you now too, Rosemary. I guess it's official: there's no way to argue seriously from the right-wing perspective any longer.
4.17.2008 1:03pm
Ara Rubyan (www):
Turn every issue post into attacks on our character

What goes around, comes around.

Was Mr. Kill Whitey WhiteBread's post on transgendered parents an "issue post" where he "argued the facts?"

If so, here's an excerpt:




Now for the facts...
The two modern mad scientists...
unnatural childbirth...
all the well-intentioned whiners...
obvious gender confusion...
Alcoholics, drug addicts, prostitutes...
Animals with four asses...

...and so forth.

That's what passes for an issue post arguing the facts here, these days.

P.S. Half-way through this, I realized I had done this once with a post from Dean Esmay, so I stopped. Like the guy said: "those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
4.17.2008 1:26pm
Rosemary, Queen of All Evil (mail):
Hey It wasn't I that said there are no issue posts. We post about issues all the time - you guys just don't like our issues and can't argue them.

LOL
4.17.2008 1:37pm
double-plus-ungood (mail) (www):
Angry liberals pay the bills like everyone else! Why is it that you liberals like to call everyone a nazi?

Excuse me, but who is it that is repeatedly claiming the liberals are Nazis around here?

I can't even remember the last person I called a Nazi. I think it was either Pinochet or Hussein.

The last person that Rose or MrW called a Nazi was liberals, a couple of days ago.

And who's calling whom hypocrites?
4.17.2008 1:56pm
shep (mail):
"...you guys just don't like our issues and can't argue them."

Funny, I though our purpose here was to prove that your "issues" are a load of horseshit on practically a daily basis. And I haven't gotten a decent argument to the contrary for going on like three years now.
4.17.2008 2:18pm
Rosemary, Queen of All Evil (mail):
LOL. I never said I wasn't a hypocrite! I called liberals nazis? Usually, I just call feminists nazis and those namby pamby men's rights advocates (the ones that support drunks who want to be stay at home dads sue their almost ex-wife for custody) pussies.
4.17.2008 2:27pm
Ara Rubyan (www):
So, seriously Rose: You OK with the swastika?

Once (kill whitey) might be a mistake; twice (swastika) might be a coincidence; three times (...?) is a pattern.
4.17.2008 2:31pm
Ara Rubyan (www):
Hey Mr. WonderBra: why don't you tell us what you believe about the Holocaust?
4.17.2008 2:32pm
Rosemary, Queen of All Evil (mail):
It's a blog ad. It supports animals and is trying to get people to use faux fur.

Yes, I support saving seals, and little animals from being made into coats for rich assholes.
4.17.2008 2:36pm
Rosemary, Queen of All Evil (mail):
I also support the right of the overzealous animal right's people to call someone a Nazi... like they do. It's Freedom of Speech baby...
4.17.2008 2:48pm
Mr. Wonderful (mail):
Hey Mr. WonderBra: why don't you tell us what you believe about the Holocaust?

Ara:

Here's what you want me to say, so I'll oblige: "The whole thing is a Zionist conspiracy! It never happened."

And while that would no doubt make your day, bubbala, it's NOT how I feel about that issue at all.

Here's what I really believe: As an American who's grandparents and great-grandparents fled Poland and Slovakia because of the political instability of the countries in that region (and of that time), I would say that the Holocaust was a tragedy of dire proportions and a good example of what can happen when people become too enmeshed in their political beliefs to the point where human life becomes meaningless.

I'm proud of my Slovak, Polish and Irish roots ... while also proud to be an American, even when that America doesn't always live up to my expectations.

Does this help?

Mr. Wonderful
4.17.2008 2:54pm
Ara Rubyan (www):
It's Freedom of Speech baby...

Good answer.

So seriously, you gonna leave the swastika up? Because along with Mr. Kill Whitey over there, I'm getting a bad feeling about this place.

IJS.
4.17.2008 2:57pm
Ara Rubyan (www):
proud to be an American, even when that America doesn't always live up to my expectations.

You mean like electing a black president?
4.17.2008 2:58pm
Ara Rubyan (www):
I would say that the Holocaust was a tragedy of dire proportions and a good example of what can happen when people become too enmeshed in their political beliefs to the point where human life becomes meaningless.

You mean like when Polish Catholics cooperated with the Nazis to kill all the Polish Jews in gas ovens?
4.17.2008 3:02pm
Ara Rubyan (www):
Good thing your grandparents got out when they did, of course.

IJS.
4.17.2008 3:03pm
Mr. Wonderful (mail):
Good thing your grandparents got out when they did, of course.

Let me guess ... good thing they got out when they did, or else they would've been right there with everyone else, burnign the Jews?

Is that what you're saying, Ara?
4.17.2008 3:16pm
Ara Rubyan (www):
Why on earth would anyone want to live in Hitlerian Germany if they could get out?
4.17.2008 4:34pm
Mark Adams, who's always correct, get used to it. (mail) (www):
Interestingly enough there is a theory I came across, and I really don't know how true or false it is, and I'm not sure which white supremacist site I saw this as, since I do frequent so many of them, but the theory was that Polish immigrants brought racism to America, proof of that being the KKK was founded in Pulaski, Tennessee, which sounds pretty Polish.

The documented animosity non-jewish Poles seem to display towards jews, despite both being victims of Hitler's aggression, can be traced back to immediately before the holocaust. As jews fled Germany after Kristahlnacht, those that entered Poland from the less affluent eastern part of Germany seemed disinclined to contribute to Polish society, to work their way through but expected hand-outs, and their skills weren't much in demand anyway.

This of course led to the feeling among Poland's citizenry that no matter what you did for the Jews, they always came back for another hand-out and became dependent on charity -- which is probably where the original Ghetto Queens could be found.

There is another theory that Hitler would have left Poland alone if not for all the Jews who ran to Poland to escape Germany -- and Hitler sending in his military chasing down the Jews who didn't have the decency to wait their turn to ride in the cattle cars.

Regardless, Hitler's Final Solution having won out over Poland's idea of shipping all the Jews to Madagascar instead of a boxcar, those Poles who ran away to America to escape the Blitz were horrified to find that there were Jews in the Unted States, and they ran everything.

Immediately the Polish Science Bureau abandoned it's plans to fix the screen doors in their submarine fleet and embarked on a Manhattan Style program to create a time machine to go back and turn the KKK from an anti-black and anti-catholic organization to one that would wipe out the American Jews.

Unfortunately their efforts were only partly successful. A faulty display light having been improperly installed (go figure) the Polish Chrononaught was only able to inspire the KKK to hate everyone, including the Poles, therefore never able to focus their anticcs enough to eliminate any single group they hated.

So there you have it. The Poles are to blame for the holocaust, the Jews, racisim, the KKK and badly connected electical devices everywhere.

[Here's Your fucking winkie --> ;-) ]
4.17.2008 4:59pm
Mr. Wonderful (mail):
Now, I NEVER thought I'd ever end up saying this to a member of the Unholy Alliance ... and Mark Adams, of all of them ... but that was actually quite f*cking hilarious! You actually made me laugh, man.
4.17.2008 5:25pm
Ara Rubyan (www):
So, K-Whitey, when did your grandparents leave Poland? They ever tell you what it was like?
4.17.2008 5:32pm
Mark Adams, who's always correct, get used to it. (mail) (www):
You would think that's funny Wunderbra, you self-loathing, closeted homophobic, Jew hating Nazi.

[IWH}

Next time just say "LOL" and save your damnation with faint praise for your Fascist Pope.
4.17.2008 5:56pm
Rosemary, Queen of All Evil (mail):
My Mom can tell him anything he wants to know. She can also show the tattoo the Nazis burned into her skin!

Want a fucking picture?
4.17.2008 5:58pm
Rosemary, Queen of All Evil (mail):
You mean like when Polish Catholics cooperated with the Nazis to kill all the Polish Jews in gas ovens?

Any clue how many Polish Catholics help save the Jews? How many perished with them?

Why not just call us a bunch of dirty Polacks. It's not like we haven't heard it before from Ye Ole tolerant types.


[insert winkie up your ass]
4.17.2008 6:05pm
double-plus-ungood (mail) (www):
I'd get a bit lower in this foxhole if I could, but my shirt buttons are in the way.
4.17.2008 6:12pm
Mark Adams, who's always correct, get used to it. (mail) (www):
Rose, if you read what I said that your "wonderful" creation thought was so funny, I just did call the both of you stupid Polacks, or are you too dumb to figure that out?

[Inserting Winkie in another orifice of choice.]
4.17.2008 6:32pm
Mark Adams, who's always correct, get used to it. (mail) (www):
DPU, Duck! Incoming!!!

Rose, move your leg a bit, I'm having trouble Winkinize here.

That's right, now bend over a little to the left.

Perfect.

Now hop on one leg and sing the Polish National Anthem. I'll get the camera.
4.17.2008 6:52pm
Rosemary, Queen of All Evil (mail):
I read what you wrote. I wasn't kind enough to think you were joking, I figured that it was par for the course of the Ohio State school system. Now I know why you liberals think school vouchers are bad...you don't know what they are used for.
4.17.2008 6:55pm
Rosemary, Queen of All Evil (mail):
Oh I forgot the winkie!!!
4.17.2008 6:57pm
Mark Adams, who's always correct, get used to it. (mail) (www):
Jesus Rose, I thought I set the world record for the longest nonsensical pollack joke ever. I even linked to a joke web site.

I spelled out a winkie insertion as required.

Jeeze.

What's a matta? I'm supposed to appreciate your marrionette and you won't give my puppet a chance to flesh out his alter ego?

You have to give me some slack, see. I'm new at playing an irrational, angry hate-filled leftist that is just asking for a kick in the ass like you think we all deserve. But I'm a quick learner.

And yeah, OSU is a football factory but not so great for academics, kinda like what ya got in Ann Arbor, but with better football teams. Good thing I went to the other place where the Bobcats are mascots of a lousy team but great band and a pretty good political science department.
4.17.2008 8:29pm
Rosemary, Queen of All Evil (mail):
What's a matta? I'm supposed to appreciate your marrionette and you won't give my puppet a chance to flesh out his alter ego?

Quoi? I said I forgot the winkie. Jeez, you get all serious. It's not like I insulted your football team...basketball, now that is a different story.
4.17.2008 8:40pm
Mark Adams, who's always correct, get used to it. (mail) (www):
Tribe up over Tigers 10 to 1. You're gonna have a long summer.
4.17.2008 9:58pm
Rosemary, Queen of All Evil (mail):
Cleveland still has a ball club?
4.17.2008 10:05pm
Mark Adams, who's always correct, get used to it. (mail) (www):
See you in October ... oh, well we'll be thinking of you guys anyway since your season will be done by July.
4.17.2008 11:00pm
Jerry K. :
I must apologize to Mr. Wonderbread. I thought he was the lowest scum on earth for his "parody", but now that dishonor falls to Mark Adams for his "joke".

Bravo!! I didn't think anyone could do it.


Mr. Wonderbread insulted Barack Obama, whereas you Mark Adams insulted an entire group of people (including my family).

Well, we assume Wonderbread was parodying Barack. But maybe he was relaying that Barack really wants us to kill some Whitey's Ice Cream, so as to boost the economy in the city of Moline, in his home state of Illinois.

Mark, on the other hand, made his joke and then followed it up by making clear his intention was to insult all the people of Poland.

So, in conclusion, we still aren't quite sure if Mr. Wonderful is racist, but we know damn well that a certain lawyer from Ohio is.

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4.18.2008 11:12am
Ara Rubyan (www):
Dang.

How long did it take for you to draw that??
4.18.2008 1:33pm
Mark Adams, who's always correct, get used to it. (mail) (www):
Impressive.

Why so upset with me? It's been established that you can be a sock puppet here and the sock puppet's actions are in no way reflective of the "wonderful" person behind the mask -- and the mask is allowed, in fact encouraged to be as vile as possible.

Interesting game, no? Or Jerry, have I proved the point that the only winning move is not to play? So don't hate that Playah ... hate the game.

(Actually in my original draft the writer who types my sock puppet was going to offer an apology to you and Alice before the performance. Through neglect that prologue was left out of the piece. As an afterword, if acceptable, I offer it now, and to your Mom on her birthday.)

Look Jerry, they were out of line and didn't care, asked nicely publicly and privately not to go down that road -- they didn't care. Exposed as a charade and didn't back off. Did they think this wouldn't happen? Of course they did.

I'm just sorry you didn't see it coming.
4.18.2008 2:08pm
Mr. Wonderful (mail):
they were out of line and didn't care, asked nicely publicly and privately not to go down that road -- they didn't care. Exposed as a charade and didn't back off. Did they think this wouldn't happen? Of course they did.

Isn't that basically just blaming the victim, Mark?

Oh, and bravo, Jerry!
4.19.2008 11:45am
Mark Adams, who's always correct, get used to it. (mail) (www):
Gotta reach consensus on the definition of victim and who was victimizing whom then, don't we. Of course, we'll then have to figure out reasonable proportional retaliation parameters and the metrics for calculating how injuries inflicted on a puppet, by a puppet, translate into real world point spreads.

Or, we could cut out the crap.

Your serve.
4.19.2008 2:42pm
Mr. Wonderful (mail):
Gotta reach consensus on the definition of victim and who was victimizing whom then, don't we.

Damnit! I demand reparations. I'm calling Sharpton!
4.24.2008 12:41am
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